Tuesday, July 18, 2006

Destination One

We had not heard of them and they're not to be found in the dockets. We like the idea of Lakefront and Detroit City, but without the right capitalization critical mass will be difficult to achieve.

27 Comments:

At 9:52 AM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

as long as the business community supports it they will be fine ...the detroit-cleveland market is enormous and the fares right now are ridiculous
time will tell i wish them great luck

 
At 2:34 PM, Anonymous Tucano Bandeirante said...

Yes, the market is pretty good, but it's all about destinations from the market. There are worse places than Hilton Head to fly, so I'm curious as to what other cities they may be targeting.

 
At 3:15 PM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

well if i were guessing i would say columbus dayton louisville indy just to name a few i dont think that hilton head stuff is gonna work.......

 
At 3:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting, nothing to be found on these guys....anywhere!

I did check up on Festival's website, and they have updated an employment site, with several different jobs at several different locations. No pilots or FA's yet, but perhaps news is on the horizon?!?

 
At 3:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone any idea on aircraft type to be used by destination ONE.

Cheers, O

 
At 4:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brasilias, I believe.

 
At 8:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are they using public facilities at these airports, or are they contracting FBO's?

 
At 9:02 AM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

i would assume the terminal but that is an educated guess ...the terminal at city airport is really really nice and the one at burke is good too ....lunken is very old but ok just the same

 
At 10:06 AM, Anonymous Tucano Bandeirante said...

It's interesting how Hilton Head Airport has heard nothing about Destination One. And the carrier has not submitted any lease paperwork to Cleveland to launch the service. On top of that, the city has been pretty clear that they want to keep Burke as a GA airport. We'll see what happens!

 
At 10:11 AM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

hmm very interesting ....maybe they are using the fbo that would not be the best ....screw what cleveland wants that would be a waste to close bkl seeing is there is a lot of small traffic out of there ..

 
At 12:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe someone should let them know about Meigs before they attempt to start service there, too.

 
At 1:04 PM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

i know however i think that mayor daly broke the law on that one since it was bulldozed in the middle of the nite

 
At 8:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember...this is a charter outfit and they are probably going to use BAG's certificate. Definitely interesting, so stay tuned. I know I am.

-Ryan

 
At 8:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In this industry, it is so hard to keep up with acronyms sometimes. Who or what is BAG?

Thanks in advance...

 
At 8:27 AM, Anonymous Tucano Bandeirante said...

BAG is Business Aviation Group, Destination One's parent company.

 
At 8:53 AM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

hello everyone
well i talked to dest one yesterday they are using bkl at the terminal dont know about the lease thing....i hope it does well those small airlines are a great thing to watch ....we will be watching .....you have a name huh ryan ...cool

 
At 1:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Below is a story in Aviation Daily about Destination One.

Public Charter Plans Cleveland Burke Airport Flights July 31
Aviation Daily
07/24/2006, page 20

A new public charter operator based in Cleveland is betting that a fleet of Brasilias and flights into downtown airports will give business travelers and vacationers an alternative to scheduled service out of major airports.

Destination One plans to offer point-to-point air shuttle service with initial flights serving Cleveland's Burke Lakefront Airport, Detroit City Airport and Cincinnati's Lunken Airport, plus Hilton Head Island and Charleston/Executive Kiawah Island airports.

The carrier has bought three Embraer Brasilias previously operated by SkyWest Airlines, said President and Chief Operating Officer Mike Hoyle. "We chose them because they are readily available, have strong product support and a modern cockpit. It's a very efficient aircraft," he said.

Destination One's parent Business Aircraft Group is already based at Burke, said Hoyle. "We think that Burke is one of the most underutilized downtown airports in the country, and we thought it would be good for the business community to offer this service," he said. "We're looking at other airports that are close to downtown and aren't served by scheduled airlines."

"We are targeting business travelers that currently fly to Cleveland, Cincinnati and Detroit," said Hoyle. "Some of the people going to these cities don't want to connect to flights, plus they want to fly into airports that are close to downtown locations."

Taking Reservations

The carrier plans to begin flights July 31 and is already taking reservations on its web site, flydestinationone.com, said Hoyle. Cleveland-Detroit will have two flights a day three days a week, while Cleveland-Cincinnati will have one flight three days a week. Cleveland and Cincinnati will receive one flight a day over the weekend to Kiawah and Hilton head.

Since Destination One is serving as a customer of and leasing terminal space through the Business Aircraft Center fixed-base operator and will be able to move forward with their plans, said city spokeswoman Maureen Harper. "A use agreement is in place for 12 months," she added.

Currently, Burke Lakefront Airport offers private general aviation air service and serves as a FAA-designated reliever airport for Cleveland Hopkins International Airport," said Ricky Smith, director of Port Control. "To that end, it has been, and remains, the City's position that operations at Burke must not negatively impact air service at Cleveland." -BW

 
At 10:00 AM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

they have been delayed til the 14th of august....paperwork problems they will get it together .....it could be a very good thing ....the emb120 is great...anybody know anything about far rule 139

 
At 7:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

FAR Part 139 is actually a chapter of regualations pertaining to airport ops: emergency alert requirements, snow removal, training requirements, and a bunch of other real tedious info that airport administrations have to follow. All airports providing Part 121 ops and ops over 9 pax must follow 139. Airports have to follow these rules, or risk being shut down by FAA Regional.

There are many FAA Advisory Circulars that provide guidance to 139 execution.

 
At 11:27 AM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

hey ryan you are so helpful
are you sure about all 121 airports being 139 how about rule 380 i never heard of that this is what dest one is waiting on ...jef

 
At 3:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have never read Part 380, but yes...all commercial service airports must be Part 139 certified if they serve Part 121 ops. Even in Alaska and Hawaii.

I am in the process of moving, and my FAR's are in my other house, although I should know this, anyway. Airports must be Part 139 certificated if they receive pax ops over 9 pax (I think), and/or if the aircraft exceeds a Gross Maximum Take-off weight. There are other criterion, as well. I'll update you on this when I find my book. The only airport that I have ever heard that lost it's 139 Certificate was Cold Bay, AK, and that was only for one day.

Part 139, in relation to air carrier service, basically describes the ARFF (firefighting equip.) that must be available, as well as other services and airfield maintenance rules.

It is very boring to read. I prefer to read this blog when given the chance. I am waiting for a reaction and opinions to Rockford's initial talks with Southwest and Jet Blue.

 
At 9:28 AM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

you know alot im impressed
i hope it happens for rfd but i think airtran would be a better fit or frontier ....u must be from rfd im guessing im in indy

 
At 9:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, ANC. But I am good friends with the RFD MGMT, and I visit once a year for the airshow.

 
At 11:14 AM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

WELL GOSH THAT IS COOL THE MEN TOTALLY OUT NUMBER THE WOMEN UP THERE ....MY KINDA PLACE HA HA YOUR KNOWLEDGE IS VERY HELPFUL....THANKS

 
At 1:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, we don't. The ratio is equal. You have to read into more than what the Almanac says it is. For instance, we have alot of military bases here, which unfavors the male:female ratio. The local population is equal.

Now, take Florida. Higher female:male ratio. However, unless you have a geriatrics fetish, you may want to look elsewhere for companionship.

 
At 3:14 PM, Blogger jeff fonner said...

no i kinda like the males out numbering the females ....i think alaska would be gorgeous ...you have a lot of little airlines up there that is cool

 
At 1:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Destination One still flying? Their website has been down for weeks now. Anyone know? Thanks.

 

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